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Approaching Women And Kissing Women
By David DeAngelo
QUESTION:
Honestly Dave, I think you need more caution, and
warning signs on your products, before some knucklehead
tries to sue you for loading his life with more women
than the poor soul knows how to handle.lol I've followed
your newsletter, purchased your Ebook, and Advanced
Series. Totally Incredible stuff. I dated my High
School sweetheart for the better portion of 5 years,
and honestly if I knew way back then what I know now
it probably wouldn't have lasted 5 months. She was
always demanding, and got upset when I tried to hang
out with friends of mine, pretty much your average
basket case, but I felt like she was the only girl
that I could ever attract. Then I managed to stumble
over your site and signed up for your newsletter and
not long after I cut the ties with her, and I am happier
today and date more interesting, intelligent women
than I ever thought possible. All thanks to your ingenious,
and selfless hard work and research.
I would say that my greatest problem is that i'm
generally a pretty low keyed mellow kind of guy that
doesn't mind going out to clubs but would far rather
find a few girls that don't mind chilling out at home
or enjoying a walk on the beach, stargazing or hell
just wrestling around on the bed.(no pun intended)
lol However if these girls tend to stay homebound
for the most part what sort of venues would you recommend
for meeting these types. Door to door dating perhaps..
lol I have also tried the online personals which
is where much of my success come from, but many of
these girls you have to look out for or you could
have a bona fide stalker on your hands.(I know this
from experience)Yeah it sucks being a good looking,
confident guy huh? This is my first time emailing
you after reading the newsletter for well over a year
now..(yeah I stay busy) but I wanted to tell you what
a awesome job your doing and that it's greatly appreciated
from myself and multitudes of others, not that you
didn't already know that; just thought i'd annoy
you by saying..lol OK Dave.. Take care and keep up
the terrific work..God Bless
Lionhart, DE
MY COMMENTS:
Well, first off I want to thank you for the shameless
promotion and over-hyping of my materials.
I appreciate it...
Next, let's talk about your "wish list".
You "don't mind going out to clubs", but you'd "far
rather find a FEW GOOD GIRLS that don't mind chilling
at home or enjoying a walk on the beach, stargazing
or hell just WRESTLING AROUND ON THE BED".
With each other, I'm assuming...
Hey, sounds good to me.
Maybe while they're wrestling they'd let you videotape...
and you could start an internet company based on the
concept.
Cut me in for a percentage.
And you know, I like the way you think.
Well, I hate to break the news to you... but if you
want to meet women, you're going to have to do SOMETHING.
The internet-bed-wrestling-make-money idea was a pretty
good one... hey, kill two birds with one stone.
Other than that, you might try out a few of those
magical activities that are interesting, enjoyable,
and (BIG AND) also draw intelligent, gorgeous women
like a magnet.
Try an art history class.
Or go to a classy "food fair" or restaurant opening.
Hit a yoga class or a kickboxing aerobics class.
Dance classes are also a big winner.
In other words, there are some great places you can
go to meet women... AND have fun... AND become a more
interesting, classy guy.
Who'd-a-thunk-it?
QUESTION:
I have been talking to this girl for about a month
now and I find myself falling in love with her everytime
we see each other (every Tuesday Night). She recently
told me that she didn't want to date me yet, because s
he would hurt me. She also said that if it is meant
to happen it will, and that we shouldn't force it.
My question is how do I get her to realize that it
is meant, and that we should push it, and how do I
prove to her she won't hurt me??
Sincerely,
-J.K.
MY COMMENTS:
Well, I'd say that the FIRST thing you should do is
grab a piece of paper and a pen, and walk into the
bathroom right now.
Turn on the light.
On the piece of paper I want you to write the word
"YZZUW" on it. I know, it doesn't make sense... but
do it anyway.
Now, hold the piece of paper in front of you, so it's
facing the mirror... almost as if it's a CAPTION for
YOUR FACE.
Look at yourself in the mirror.
Let that settle in for a minute.
Step 2:
Now that you have a clear picture of what a WUSSY
looks like, move on to a more advanced maneuver.
Carefully take your right hand, and raise it up next
to your face.
Hold it about 12 inches away.
Now firmly BITCH SLAP yourself with it.
Repeat until the Wuss has been slapped out of you...
Dude, duuuuuude.
You are SOOO missing the point here.
She does not want a guy who will prove to her that
she won't hurt him. She doesn't want to be with you
because you're acting like a WUSSBAG.
Women aren't attracted to girly-men.
Girly-men freak women out.
Women RUN from girly-men.
The answer is for you to start acting like a MAN...
and stop acting like a GIRL.
You need to get yourself a copy of my Advanced Dating
Techniques Program immediately.
This is an emergency. Do it.
http://www.DoubleYourDatingSystem.com/10288/AdvancedSeries/
SUCCESS STORY:
Hi Dave,
I have in my life had good and bad success with women
and I just learned to live with it. I have a very good
job im a big guy 6'3" 240 nice build and I get told
a lot that im good looking. So with all that being
said I just thought I would take things as they come.
I have always been cocky+funny naturally BUT I didn't
use that on the women that I really wanted always one
ones that wanted me or just girls I work with etc..
Also I wasn't doing it in the fashion that you teach.
I wouldn't use the lines " you know you want me admit
it" or "just say please" those would move the attention
to ME and away from the situation I would think which
wasn't what I was after while doing it. I would always
be C+F just because that was me.. I wasn't trying to
pick anyone up lol its so funny thinking back now.
Anyway. after reading your mail bag and book it dawned
on me.. WTF was I thinking.. I would have literally
dozens of women chasing me but all of them I didn't
want (not cute or what ever).. but the ones I wanted
were like he's cool but what ever..well this girl that
I like is a bartender at a bar I go to every weekend,
we joke play but never date.. I started using the stuff
you teach on her as a test (was in friend zone) and
BAM she wont leave me alone said to me today on phone
that she's liking me more and more every day..I said
damn your slow.. everyone else gets it what's taking
you so long.. I helped her tend bar last night and every
time she passed me I said loudly "will you stop grabbing
my ass" its like a different girl.
I have lots more stories since ive been using your
stuff for weeks now and its un-real I am able to get
laid 3 or 4 times a week now with out even really
trying. (need to rest sometimes) lol. I wasted so much
time and im only 34.. oh one more thing to those people
that worry about age.. the oldest girl I was with
since I started Dave's stuff was 30 and that's cuz
she was a challenge.. the rest are 22-26 its like
magic man.. get rid of your fears and go for it
P.S. since I started DD101 I have filled my cell
phone book with numbers and most I didn't even ask,
they would take my phone and put it in themselves.
J from Michigan
MY COMMENTS:
Yea, I love getting emails like yours...
One of the great things about the Cocky & Funny (now
referred to on occasion as Cocky Comedy) is that so
many guys ALREADY GET IT.
And, just like you, many of us have understood EXACTLY
what to do... we just never did it when we were around
women that we LIKED.
I'm glad you're figuring out how all of the pieces
fit together...
And thanks for reminding all of us that just because
you're tall and good looking does NOT mean that you're
going to automatically get girls...
By the way, put a hat on that thing... and watch out.
Use caution, my friend. You don't want one of those
unwanted gifts that just keeps on giving...
QUESTION:
Greetings David,
I live in small Easter-European country which is
by all means underdeveloped.
So, after encountering the ad for your book, I was
suspicious if it is going to work for Bosnian women
too.
But, after buying and reading it, I only discovered
that the whole story about Bosnian women was only
in my mind. I discovered that after reading about
all kinds of fears men have while approaching women.
Those fears take form of the entire set of reasons
only not to be rejected or embarrassed.
Anyhow, in brief: After browsing through the book
I started implementing concepts. My address book is
now filled with emails and phone numbers right below
the email. I am constantly going out with girls. And
I enjoy it.
But the biggest benefit I derived from the book
was: it has instructed me to be a better person and
man. It has also shown me how.
So, thank you for sharing your knowledge with me.
I am very much interested in your new publications,
should you have some. And in joining the Buyer's
club if you have one, too.
Could you please let me know about these things?
Many greetings to DoubleYourDating community.
It's OK to be a man.
Regards,
D
MY COMMENTS:
Nice!
Thanks for your email.
I get a lot of emails and questions from guys who
ask "Will this work in my country?".
Now, I personally don't have a lot of experience in
different countries and cultures... but from what
I hear back from guys all over the world who are using
these concepts, they are universal.
Congratulations, and thank you for your email.
QUESTION:
Hi David
Dave, I can safely say you've changed my life. I
was once a 27 year old virgin, I know, extreme! I
had never been on a date, and I had one girlfriend
when I was 17. And get this, I've been told by loads
of women that I'm hot. The reason for this is my
complete lack of confidence, I just had none. I would
get eyed up in a bar, and want to go over, but I
just didn't know what to say! If I was approached
by a lady, I either froze up or shook so much that
everyone in the room thought their cell phone was
vibrating!
I just got up 1 day decided to go on the internet
and learn! I really didn't think I would come across
so much rubbish! But I signed up to all the free newsletters
and I used techniques subtly with me female friends!
Well as you've obviously guessed, your tips were the
ticket! I bought the book and I was off.....
I am now 28, been using your techniques for about
a year, year and a half.and I am so happy! I have
girls coming out of my ears! I am now dating 3 women
(very hot women) and I have 4 that wont leave me alone!
I am emailing you to say thank you, I would really
appreciate an email back if you don't post it on a
newsletter, just so I know you've read it, or I might
send it again knowing me!
Ok here's the question, I have heard similar questions
so much on your newsletters but this is quite specific
and a 'proper' answer would be great, rather than the
default one!
Right, the one girl that I want is the one playing
hard to get. I've played it cool so far, I knew her
from work but didn't know her very well, she's now
left and I saw her in a club and 'told' her to give
me her number! I rang her but her phone is always
off, so I sent her a text message (sms) asking if
she fancies going for a coffee during the week. She
replied that she's busy all week and she said that
she has just got back with her ex and if I want to
get to know her as a friend is my decision.
I REALLY like her, and she does not know this (because
she doesn't need to know). I am still a novice at
the game so could you tell me exactly what you would
do and exactly what you would say? please
Thanks again
MY COMMENTS:
Well then... welcome to the world of being an adult
man! Exciting.
And I'm glad to hear that you're doing well with the
ladies... FINALLY.
Now, you want me to give you a "special" answer to
your "special situation".
Let's see...
You are surrounded by gorgeous women... and they're
chasing you around like you're some kind of rock star...
but you don't want THOSE women... of course.
Nooooo...
You want the ONE who isn't interested in you... the
one who just got back with her boyfriend.
Before I give you a "special" answer, I'd like you
to consider your own situation.
Let's be honest, shall we?
Right now you are OUT OF CONTROL.
You are not into this girl because she's actually
that "special".
You're into her because she's NOT INTO YOU.
If you'll admit this to yourself, and admit that you're
basically out of control in this situation, then we
can make some progress.
So admit it. Say it out loud.
"I'm out of control. I want this girl mostly because
she doesn't want me... and it really fascinates the
hell out of me... and I can't stop thinking about
it."
Just read that out loud.
Read it again, just so you hear the words this time.
Think about it for a minute.
You UNDERSTAND THIS STUFF!
And it STILL works on YOU.
That's profound.
And by the way, the more you try to "resist" the idea...
and tell yourself that she's just a challenge and
you only want her because she's "special", etc. the
worse it will get.
So what should you do?
Hit the road.
Say "Next".
Move on.
Walk.
One of the best things you can do for YOURSELF is
to get the number of an unusually attractive woman,
then THROW IT AWAY.
Why? Duh.
Because it's a symbol. It's you saying to yourself
"I don't need ANY woman. I can go out and meet women
anytime. I'm happy as I am."
That kind of thing will help you, big time.
Now, if you REALLY REALLY REALLY don't want to take
my advice... and you want to make yourself crazy some
more, here's what to do:
1) Stop calling this girl for a couple of weeks.
2) Call her in two weeks and say "Hey, I have a question
that I really need to ask you... call me".
3) When she calls, say "Yea, I wanted to ask you why
it's taking you so long to call and ask me out...".
Tell her about some beautiful and intelligent woman
you've been dating, and then tell her that you'd
like to get together with her and hang out as friends.
4) When you do see her, JUST BE FRIENDS. Chill out,
and give her space.
5) Take the time and energy to actually get to know
her as a person. Find out if she is really the kind
of girl that you'd like to be with. Make a list of
all the things that would make a "perfect" woman.
Then make a list of all the things that would be "deal
killers". Ask her all the questions when you meet
her... and do it in a "friend" kind of way.
I'd be willing to bet you a dollar in cash that she
is NOT AT ALL the kind of girl you really want to
be with.
On the other hand, if she IS your dream girl, lean
back and take your time.
Bust on her. Tease her. Make fun.
Tell her that you can't possibly understand how her
boyfriend could stand her.
Chances are that she won't be with this guy for long,
and you will have now established that she's your
dream girl... and you'll be ready to "pounce".
Moral?
Just get on with your life, man.
You're talking like a Wuss who's trying to pretend
that he's not.
My Wuss-Dar is going off like 4th of July fireworks.
COMMENTS FROM A WOMAN:
Hi Dave!
I'm a quite hot 25 year old (or so I've been told
many times...) woman who's been in a relationship
for several years & a few months ago my boyfriend
"mysteriously" started receiving your newsletter.
Now he says he doesn't read the stuff (with the way
he acts I believe him) but I wish he did!!! I have
to say that I'm considering ending my relationship
since he's become such a wuss (he didn't used to be)
I greatly enjoy reading your stuff and to all the
guys out there, C & F IS THE BEST WAY TO GET WOMEN,
I should know being one myself. (Also a challenge,
well uh... for me, is always very nice)
Keep up the terrific work & maybe one day all women
will have great men
B, Montreal
MY COMMENTS:
I'll tell you what... when you do leave the dumb-ass
(and you will, I can hear that you've already made
the decision in your heart... and you're just trying
to rationalize it now) make sure and email me again.
I can guarantee you that I'LL READ THESE NEWSLETTERS.
Kiss Kiss,
D.
SUCCESS STORY:
David,
It is amazing how some good advice and a simple
change of attitude can make such a difference in your
life. I am in my late forties and have been physically
disabled from birth. (I use a wheelchair to get
around.) Throughout my history with women, I have
always been the "friend." I've always been a shoulder
to cry on and never the face to sit on! Well, my
new best friend, after reading your e-book, my whole
world changed. I've always been a little cocky, and
humor comes naturally to me. Let's face it, cocky +
funny = Smart Ass, more or less. My concern was getting
punched in the head. But as it turns out, the women
who get what I'm doing, are the ones I'm attracted
to. If I brought to my home every woman that has
given me her number, I would have time for little
else.
I tried to make this one paragraph. Sorry, can't
do it. After realizing that most women love a bad
boy, I became one, saying and doing things I would
never say or do before. IT REALLY WORKS! I have
no questions for you, Dave. I just want to tell the
readers of your newsletter to get your e-book, videos,
audios, whatever, and then practice.
Thanks, David.
c.
Anchorage, AK
MY COMMENTS:
Thanks for your email.
I have to say something that's probably not very politically
correct... but here goes...
I've done a few seminars around the USA over the past
two years.
Each one has been an experience...
And at each one something VERY interesting happens.
When we break for lunch or break at the end of the
day, I always have guys come up and talk to me.
Sometimes one of the guys who comes up to talk to
me has an obvious "physical challenge" of some type
or another... and it's obvious enough that I mentally
think to myself "OK, he's going to ask me how to overcome
his challenge with women".
And guess what?
MOST of the time, this isn't true at all.
In fact, I would say that most of the guys who have
come up to talk to me who have "obvious" physical
challenges say things like "I'm already successful
with women... but I have this one question".
It has blown my mind.
My own realization is that the reality of women being
attracted to the INNER MAN is even MORE TRUE than
even I thought.
Thanks for your email, and good work.
QUESTION:
I happen to get two best female friends. How do I
choose one?
MY COMMENTS:
Pick the one with the most money.
SUCCESS STORY:
Hi David,
I am 50, look good and always got the women I wanted....
but was always scared sh**less when I wanted to approach
a woman I see and wanted to meet, but didn't know
how to approach her. Since I apply your ideas though
my fear is gone. It works like magic.
Till now I am not telling you anything new. But
listen what happened a short while ago. A friend of
mine has this daughter who I have known for years.
She is a lesbian (40), so of course we have just been
friends. We live far apart now and she asked me if
she could stay with me while on vacation and bring
her 22 year young nubile girlfriend. I agreed and
they arrive a month later. This girlfriend turns out
to be a goddess. So I remember your lessons and I
totally bust this girls' balls (Is that the right
expression? Sounds weird. English is not my native
tongue). For some reason, although she is lesbian,
I notice that she wants me to find her attractive.
But I tell her (her friend is there too) that she
is too young for me, I don't like blonds, bla bla
bla. I am calm and use a subtle smile when I deliver
the messages. She goes nuts and becomes more and
more aggressive, because normally guys are all over
her. Logical, because she is gorgeous. But I keep
ignoring her and give a lot of attention to her girlfriend.
I treat her like a little girl, who is not really
seen by me as an adult. (Of course I want to bed her,
but I don't want to get into a fight with the other,
who is really a good friend of mine. So I dismiss
the possibility altogether.)nThen she comes to me
(after a few days) saying that she never did it with
a guy, but that I am the chosen one to experience
that 'penetration - thing ' that she misses in the
sex with her girlfriend. (I kid you not! ) Her girlfriend
is there when she tells me this and her girlfriend
admits that she is also curious and that they discussed
this the night before and want to give me a menage-a-trois.
The rest is history.
By the way, I use that line a lot now ('that they
are too young for me') with younger women. They go
crazy. And the older the are, the better it works.
I even tell 'girls' of 30 this and then they seem
to need to show how 'adult' they are, also in the
bedroom.
Thanks again for your ideas. It is great stuff. It
even works on lesbians!!!
G.
MY COMMENTS:
I can't type.
I am sitting in a reverent pose, head bowed to you.
I think I can speak for all fellow men when I say:
"You suck, and all men wish they were you."
Powerful male energy has that effect... and now you
have seen it first hand.
QUESTION:
David,
I loved your book. And I really think that the advice
of "the more women you talk to the better at it you
will be" is worth the price of the book alone. I
have one dilemma. My local mall where I live is "the"
place where all the women go, but after years of
rejection or faint politeness at best by doing exactly
that over the years, I am so defeated, I cant bring
myself to walk over cold to a female in that mall
anymore. I am 44 years old and after getting the
cold shoulder for over 20 Years wherever I go, particularly
in malls, its hard to believe I can get any other
kind of result other than making an ass out of myself.
What repulsive vibes I must be giving off! I am a
so-so looking guy, 5'9 170 lbs in decent shape and I
approach women from 19-38 and I cant seem to get positive
reactions. And I dont talk like a truck driver either.
I am college educated. Yes I am scared shitless upon
approach till they talk to me, but once they open up,
I am so relaxed and funny (not cocky though) you'd
think I was Johnny Carson's son.
Anyway, how do I get my confidence back at approaching
women in malls? I sometimes walk into a dept store
and go to the mens section hoping to see a lady buying
something for a relative that i can ask advice. Or
I may go to the ladies section and compliment her
on something she is thinking of getting. Or, I flirt
with the cashier, or one of the sales girls. Sometimes
I will even try the passive approach and sit on a
bench and let someone come sit down on the bench next
to me and at least give me a look.! Never works. Not
in 20 yrs. I could wait years and Its like I am the
invisible man. Rarely is anyone rude, just apathetic.
This has been happening for over 20 yrs. Literally!
Ive even put on a suit and tie so they think I work
in the mall and that doesnt work. And no, my hair Isnt
messy, I have no nose hairs showing, I bathe daily,
etc. Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp!!! By the way, I get the
same results no matter where I approach a women. Ive
even tried the personals for 6 yrs and have emailed
over 1000 women and my pic makes me look 5x better
than I look in person and still.......nothing! Also,
I am a white guy and most of the women in the mall
are of color, so should I be using a special strategy
or something? What to do?
M.
MY COMMENTS:
OK, remember the advice I gave to the guy earlier,
where I told him to bring a pen and paper into the
bathroom?
I think you need to call him... maybe the two of you
can go into his bathroom together... and conserve
paper.
Let me get this straight...
Sometimes you put on a suit and tie, then go to the
mall... hoping that a girl will come sit next to you
on a bench... and she'll think that you WORK there?
And you think this is going to work magic for you?
We need to talk.
First of all, you're whining like a little girl.
Second, you're committing the sin of using only half
of the Cocky & Funny formula. In other words, you
probably sound like a DORK to women.
Third, you need to go and make friends with some guys
who are GREAT with women, and WATCH them interact
with women in person.
Look, if you're not going to use the materials the
way they're intended to be used, why are you complaining?
Instead of putting on a suit, just bang your head against
the wall like twenty times a day...
It will save you a trip to the mall...
Here...
The formula goes like this:
COCKY + FUNNY.
COCKY + COMEDY.
You need to use ARROGANT HUMOR.
Bust balls.
Tease with sarcasm.
Create some sexual TENSION.
You're not a clown, so quit acting like one.
Read my book again, and try the materials the way
I've presented them to you...
SUCCESS STORY:
Dave,
This is for all those people who don't believe your
techniques work in a relationship. I'm 43, slightly
overweight, false teeth, don't make a lot of money
and in the middle of a divorce (my second) from a
plain looking woman (I thought she'd appreciate me
more) who didn't want a "nice guy" (WUSS) and took
advantage of my "approval seeking". After I filed
for divorce, I started going on-line looking for new
prospects, sticking to my own age group, using a "nice
guy" profile, "WUSS" letters to anyone remotely decent,
and "WUSS" responses to any replies I got. I'm naturally
witty with quick repartee (sexual innuendo and busting
are instinctive to me, but never when I'm in a relationship),
but I kept that out because I was afraid of offending
and scaring off any potential females. They usually
didn't write more than two times before disappearing.
Your book and e-mails changed all that.
After buying your book, I took C&F on-line, and
it worked so well in my own age group, that I tried
it on a few younger types. I got quite a few good
responses but kept screwing up by reverting to "WUSS".
I finally met this one girl, 22 with good looking
picture, and decided to keep the C&F going and see
what happened. After a while, I said I was going
to a movie on a particular date, and if she wanted
to she could come along. And, I didn't stop busting
on her all night, figuring to just enjoy myself because
we'd never be more than friends. She was laughing
constantly, and at herself. She was the nervous
one, and obviously attracted. But I played hard
to get. I turned all her advances back at her C&F,
until she practically raped me one night. She had
plenty of boyfriends before me, but they never got
anywhere because of their WUSS behavior, like trying
to "buy" her, or proposing after the second date (one
really did). Until that night I used to call her my
"virgin sex maniac" (she was), because of how passionate
she was, and she loved the nickname. Now I just call
her a sex maniac. We've been together 9 months now,
and SHE proposed two weeks ago for after my divorce
is final (it's a long bitter one). I made her wait
almost a week before accepting. And, I still bust
on her constantly, but always jokingly (C&F) There's
some "WUSS" behavior, like love poems, and going
clothes shopping with her. But those are things I
want to do, not me seeking approval (another change),
and she knows that. I'm not looking for anyone else,
because I'm truly happy where I'm at, instead of scared
like I was in ALL my previous relationships. Your
material is what got me here, and it's obvious that
it's what will keep this soon to be marriage from
ever becoming boring.
Thanks,
R.O.
MY COMMENTS:
All I can say is that I saw the picture, and your
girls is a babe. No question.
You're the man.
By the way, as you know, one of my very favorite places
to use and LEARN how to use Cocky Comedy is ONLINE.
Chat is great.
It gives you time to FORMULATE great lines and responses.
It's the ultimate "simulator".
And the great part is that there are literally millions
and millions of REAL WOMEN online who are willing
to "simulate" at any hour of the day.
Good luck with the Virgin Sex Maniac.
And thanks for the email.
QUESTION:
Dave,
I bought you e-book and must admit it is worth the
price plus its weight in gold. As I read it I kept
saying to myself, "Yeah, I already know that. Hey,
why is this guy telling our secrets?" Over 20 years
ago, I did the same thing you did ... I learned from
some really good mentors, I tried things and found
out what worked and what did not, and most importantly
I learned to maintain that "NEXT!" attitude. Oh,
I am not going to ask for a refund. No way! Your book
is the best refresher course I've seen. When I consider
wussing, I just re-read it and ... Presto! ... an
instant cure. Thanks!!! One thing that always seems
to get attention is a playful look that says "I just
had a great idea!" ... Pop Rocks come to mind! On a
date I bought some while we were sitting and chatting.
As they started to pop in my mouth, I just raised my
eyebrows looking at her and smiled with a devilish
twinkle in my eye, and put the rest of the package
in my pocket. Then I winked at her and said, "For later."
Of course, how far this is taken depends on familiarity.
In this case, she was anticipating "trying" Pop Rocks
for the rest of the evening, but I never mentioned
them again.
I've been to many different countries, and the general
approach you describe has worked in all of them. It
is not a woman's cultural training, but something
more primitive that cocky and funny appeals to in
them. I think it subconsciously says to them that
this man is certain he can take care of them ... he
is not worried, but is so sure of his abilities that
he can actually have fun. I know what you teach works
in Europe, in the Orient, in Latin America and in
North America. I could give several examples, but
here is one from the Orient... A beautiful woman met
me for coffee. She rather quickly told me that other
men always told her how beautiful she was and suggested
that I do the same. I replied with, "Well,... (pause)...
they are trying to get laid. And you can't believe
everything a guy tells you when he's trying to get
laid.... (pause)... Of course you're attractive. You're
having coffee with me, aren't you?" By the way, she
was late, so I handed her the bill after a delightful
conversation about culture, customs and local history.
She looked shocked and I laughed and said (with a smile),
"I'll pay it. But if you are late next time, don't
expect me to be so nice." She would tell me that the
things I said would make her angry, but she just could
got bored with the guys who were telling her how beautiful
she was all the time. Guess whom she called frequently
to see if we could go out? Also, she was never late
for another date. We won't go into who got laid and
who did not. =)
Dave, there is a question I have for you. At this
time in my life I am enjoying being single again.
Sure, if I met a woman who made me feel that the better
part of me was missing when she was not there, I
would be delighted to settle down. However, I find
that women frequently just assume that a relationship
is serious or exclusive and get really angry when
I let them know that is not the case. I've tried telling
them from the beginning that I was also dating others
and I get an I-don't-want-to-hear-about-it reply.
I've tried explaining that for now, I am looking for
anything special, but it seems that they WANT a relationship,
even when they SAY they just want to have fun and
date as friends. How do you recommend handling this
situation?
R.
from all over, but currently living in LA
MY COMMENTS:
Ah, yes.
It's taken me a long time to figure out the answer
you're looking for... but I believe that I've found
it.
I personally believe that the "relationship trigger"
inside of a woman is tied to the amount of time you
spend with her and/or talking to her on the phone.
If you want a girlfriend, talk to her and see her
several times a week.
Her "relationship emotions" will kick in almost immediately.
If you want to date casually, don't talk to her more
than once or twice a week, and don't see her more
than about once per week.
If you do that, it will eliminate the need to "have
the talk"... because there will be no talk required.
No technique is perfect, but you'll find that this
one is as close as they get...
MORE COMMENTS FROM A WOMAN
Hey Dave
I love your material. I am an average looking, fun,
27 year old female. I have always hated those wimpy,
clingy guys that want a relationship and to "please"
me before they even get to first base. I have introduced
several of my male friends to your materials and they
email me volumes of dating success stories.
For all of your readers that still don't 'get it,'
I wanted to share an example of what not to do. I
had begun to frequent a local club and got to the
point that I was comfortable going in alone. After
a long day at work all I wanted was to sit and sip
my drink and enjoy the music. If a C&F guy was to
come along then I was open to conversation. What I
got instead was the loser guy that goes from table
to table asking women to dance or just make idle
chit chat. I politely tell him that I had a long
day and I just want to sip my drink. Instead of taking
the hint he slides in closer to me, puts both elbows
up on the bar and asks what made it a long day. I
told him as nicely as I could that I wasn't in the
mood for chit chat. He looked like a wounded puppy
and sauntered off. Exactly one week later I was at
the same place with some friends. Sitting one dance
out, the same guy walks up to me with a killer opening
line, "You look bored." He doesn't get it when I
tell him that I am not going to tell him my name
AGAIN, he must have enjoyed some liquid confidence
because this time he was touching my shoulder and
getting right in my face. It took telling him that
I was there with someone to get him to go away.
Bottom line, watch the creep factor. If practicing
C&F then this shouldn't be a problem.
Thanks Dave, by improving the dating lives of men
everywhere you are improving the dating lives of woman
as well.
S. in Seattle
MY COMMENTS:
Yea, nice.
I wrote a newsletter recently that mentioned the emotion
women feel called "The Instant Ewww".
Well, you've demonstrated yet another way that any
guy can make any woman feel it within moments of meeting.
Thanks for the story...
GUYS! Take note... don't do this kind of stupid, Jack-Wuss
stuff.
COMMENTS FROM A WOMAN
First, I should say that I enjoy reading your letters,
comments, etc. I definitely think you have some interesting
insight on women and dating. I would like to share
some thoughts that I recurrently have while reading
your newsletter.
Cocky and Funny doesn't just work on women. I have
always used cocky and funny as a flirting technique
and men love it too. I think it communicates some
important things about a person. 1) I am a fun person
capable of letting my hair down. 2) I am confident
in myself. 3) For the person on the other end of C&F,
assuming he/she responds well, it says he/she is confident
enough to take the teasing and roll with it. Frankly,
C&F is just fun, and people like to be with fun people.
Also, I have some reflections on the whole "nice
guy" thing. When women say they want "nice" men they
aren't lying or misunderstanding what they want. But,
I do think that what women mean by "nice" and what
men think we mean are two different things. When it
comes to relationships, I don't want to be physically
or emotionally harmed, cheated on, or stood up, etc.
Basically, I want a partner who is reliable and trustworthy
and who shows me on occasion that I am special, he
cares about me, and enjoys being with me. When it
comes to dating, especially first dates, men can take
"nice" waaaayyy too far. Often this equates to "creepy."
For instance, a guy once gave me on the second date
an extremely large bouquet of exotic flowers and a
pineapple (?). I would guess the bouquet cost him
at least $100, if not more. CREEPY. I was already
slightly creeped out by this guy because he wanted
to drive one hour at 11pm the day after our first date
to see me. When I said no, he practically begged. I
did see him the following day which is when he presented
the flowers. I sent him home an hour later and he did
not get date 3. Another guy showed up on the first date
with a bouquet of roses, had the waitress box up left-over
iceburg lettuce for me, and told me later that he was
glad he took some time off from college because otherwise
he would have never met me! CREEPY. Guy did not get
second date. Another guy, on the first date, was so
concerned about being chivalrous that he would run
ahead of me to reach doors before me and open them
for me. He was so concerned about pleasing me that
he would not assist in making decisions about plans
for the date. I ended the date as soon as possible.
These are extremes, but other things include calling
constantly and demanding lots of time from me right
away. All of these things come down to trying TOO hard
which communicate to me, not niceness, but a level of
desperation and neediness that makes me worry if I
have a stalker on my hands. I begin to wonder 1) is
this guy extremely emotionally needy and will become
possessive and physically scary? 2) is there something
really wrong with this guy that makes him incapable
of having a relationship with women and so he is THIS
desperate?
Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy men doing nice things
for me, but there are limits. For instance my current
boyfriend (in a monogamous relationship) treated me
to an expensive, beautiful dinner and flowers for my
birthday. This was a special occasion for two people
who really care for each other. On first dates there
should be no expensive dinners, no expensive gifts,
no extensive flattery, no expression of emotion that
shouldn't yet be felt. I also like to contribute to
the date in some way, say purchase coffee at the end
of the evening. If a man is paying for everything,
all the time, I begin to feel guilty, like a mooch.
I don't think all women are like this, but I feel
uncomfortable with too much financial and emotional
flattery, especially early on.
A--Florida
MY COMMENTS:
Ohhhh... this is good stuff.
More of the infamous "Instant Ewww" phenomenon...
You're really onto something here, because I have
heard women say "He gives me the creeps" on MANY,
MANY occasions myself.
Yea, it's worse than most guys think.
A little bit of a good thing is a good thing.
A lot of a good thing too early is the kiss of death...
Write in more often. Love it.
SUCCESS STORY
Dave,
I'm a guy who has had pretty good success with women.
Im in shape, and attractive, not shy, and have always
had the attitude that if she isn't interested there
must be something wrong with HER. But your materials
are fantastic. They have helped me have a PLAN so
I have been better prepared in certain situations.
And the entire C/F thing has helped me weed out the
right women. In other words...some women get offended,
turned off to this approach. GREAT!!!! If you are
a stuffy, too good for everyone, can't have any fun
woman I dont need you OR your attitude. It helps find
out who the fun ones are.
Now for how your materials helped me this past weekend.
Im in a college football town and was at a huge tailgate
(10,000 people) party that takes place near the stadium
in front of a local hotel.
Im in the hallway of the hotel using my cell phone
and see a GORGEOUS girl sitting on a bench doing the
same. Heres the dialogue when she gets up to leave.
Me: "You're going to leave without even hitting on
me"
Her: "You need a better line than that"
Me: "That wasn't a line"
Her: "That was a line and a bad one"
Me: "For it to be a line I would have had to be
interested in you"
Her: Laughs and hits me
Her: "You're a player"
Me: "You're not very smart are you? The game
already started and the players are on the
field. I see...you thought you would meet
some athlete down here, seduce him and hit the
lottery huh?
Her: Hitting me again.
Me: Why dont you try Los Angeles. Kobe's out there
Her: I have to go into the bathroom DONT go
anywhere.
This is where it gets Classic. While she is in the
bathroom her friend (who I dont know is her friend
and wasnt around earlier) sits down on a chair near
me and we make eye contact. I think to myself that
if I werent waiting on the other one I would get to
know this one. We exchange a couple of smiles and
thats it. I thought about getting an email, but didnt.
so here is how it picked up with the original girl.
Me: Its about time. I almost didnt wait that long
Her: Stop!!!!
Me: Plus I had that girl over there hitting on me
Her: Thats my friend I came with!
Me: Some friend, she tried to steal me when you
weren't looking
Her: (to her friend) Were you hitting on him
Friend: Maybe (laughing)
Her: The love of my life and you try to steal him
(sarcastic)
Me: I have to get to a private party Im here for...
do you have email
Her: Only if I get yours
Me: Only if I get a kiss goodbye
Her: (quick kiss on the lips)
Me: Thats not what I meant....tell your friend
you will be back in about 5 minutes
Her: (to friend) You going to be here for 5
minutes.
Me: Follow me!
The rest is private! But again....your information
is priceless!
MY COMMENTS:
What you have written here is GENIUS LEVEL material.
I could write an entire chapter of a book on this
one short story... hell, I might even do that some
day.
The one thing that I will comment on here is the amazing
ability you've demonstrated of serving the ball back
over the net EVERY TIME she tried to be a stuck-up,
bratty girl.
Most guys would have thrown in the towel at the very
first "You need a better line than that".
As soon as a woman says something like that to most
guys, the guy crumbles... he falters... he loses his
composure... and he's DONE.
In that moment when he loses his balance, she instantly
and unconsciously has that gut-level "Wuss" response...
and the door SLAMS shut.
Most guys don't realize that if you can "keep the
ball in play", you can turn a situation like this
from "bad" to "WAAAAYYY GOOD" in a matter of a few
SECONDS.
I was talking to a good friend of mine recently,
and we were talking about starting conversations
with women.
We were talking about that moment when you first start
using Cocky Comedy with a woman... and she says "You're
kind of full of yourself... what makes you think you're
so cool?"... as if she's put off by your attitude...
And my friend looks at me, shakes his head, smirks,
and says "Yea, you own her at that point".
Now, what did he mean?
How is it possible that if you've apparently acted
too cocky... and turned a woman off... that you could
"own her"?
Well, it's true.
I was once joking with a friend... sometimes you'll
meet a girl... and you'll bust her balls and tease
her so much that she starts to get agitated... and
all of a sudden she snaps into a mode of:
"I don't know what it is that makes you think you're
god's gift... but I need to make out with you to find
out!"
LOL... it's funny.
Now, like I mentioned before, this is more advanced
stuff.
You need to have a good feel for chemistry and sexual
tension before you really try these types of moves
with women you don't know.
But there's a very interesting lesson here...
A woman doesn't have to LIKE you to feel ATTRACTION
for you. The ATTRACTION happens on its own... regardless
of other things happening at the same time.
Certain traits and communication techniques trigger
ATTRACTION... and if you know what they are, and
how to amplify them, then you can create results
that will literally seem like MAGIC to others watching.
...and if you're reading this right now and you'd
like to be one of the few men on this planet that
actually GETS IT when it comes to this "other level"
of communication, then you need to get your hands
on a copy of my Advanced Dating Techniques CD/DVD
program.
It will open up a new world that you never knew existed,
and teach you how to be the kind of man that women
have been hoping for all their lives...
And the best part is that women in your life will
THANK YOU and APPRECIATE YOU for learning this stuff.
If you doubt me, just read the letters from women
in this newsletter... I'm not kidding.
All the details, plus some great free audio and video
clips are here:
http://www.DoubleYourDatingSystem.com/10288/AdvancedSeries/
And if you haven't downloaded my online ebook "Double
Your Dating" yet, then go get it! You can download it
right now and be reading it within a few minutes...
download it here:
http://www.DoubleYourDatingSystem.com/10288/eBook/
I'll talk to you again soon.
Your Friend,
David D.
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